How do you know I drive, Penny? How do you know I'm uninsured? Even without the law, I would be civilly responsible for what I do. There are a million auto insurance companies out there. We're talking about sole-sourcing all of healthcare. Kinda scary, considering people still don't know what's in the bill.

The car insurance thing is cheap and disingenuous. I only have to have car insurance if I drive. This will require EVERYONE by virtue of their existence to buy health insurance or pay a fine. That is virgin territory. Even this brain-dead administration doesn't believe healthcare costs/premiums will go down or even level off. Wasn't that the whole justification? 70% of us want this stupidity to all go away. But that doesn't mean anything to the kewl people who see themselves as gods gift to the poor. They screw the poor on a daily basis, but they don't care. It's really all about them and their sensibilities. What possible difference does it make who's idea the individual mandate was? It was a terrible (and illegal) one.

Watching Missy22's and myersbraden's feeble attempts to justify greed and crackpot political views are the saddest things I have seen this morning.

And besides ALL THAT. The individual mandate forcing people to buy health insurance was a REPUBLICAN idea and their concept of healthcare reform.

Irresponsible uninsured deadbeats like Missy22 are the reason the rest of us pay higher car insurance rates.

I'll remember that, brilliant Missy22, when you get in trouble for not having car insurance.

Oh, yea. Higher premiums for less access to healthcare. People shouldn't be forced to buy any product from anybody. Even the relatively few people who are uninsured STILL GET HEALTHCARE. Nobody is owed anything in this life, INCLUDING healthcare. We all like to believe that everybody is greedy but us, yet we gladly go to the ballot box and vote ourselves other peoples earnings! Sounds like greed to me. Healthcare will cost MORE and be LESS available, not to mention the control that the govt will exercise over our lives to save "the program". No thanks. I don't want to use force against Jeff or Penny, yet they rationalize their use of force against me. Compassion should equal ones willingness to do something voluntarily for someone else. It doesn't involve govt. force.

I don't know of any recent year when there hasn't been a "tremendous increase" in insurance premiums. That is exactly why so many are piced out of the system right now. It is past time to stop the greed, political back scratching, and downright corruption, and force insurance companies to prioritize care over profit and politcal payola.

Oh yes, we don't want everybody to have insurance, reducing the cost for all, or be able to cover kids until they are out of college and on their own, or force insurance companies to actually pay out a certain percentage of coverage, or prevent insurance companies from denying coverage once a person becomes sick. At least this is apparently what Missy22 believes. I can only imagine her vision to correct our broken, cost prohibitive, unhealthy healthcare system.

Anybody who believes these rebates are going to offset the tremendous increase in premiums is drinking the proverbial kool-aid. This terrible law should and will be repealed.