@ 'taint': It is easy to see who expects something for nothing. MEN get out & work for what they want. You & 'tao' are birds of a feather; typical lazy, pro-drug, pro-welfare, pro-big govt., leeches. You want others to provide what you want, as well as what you need. If you want to communicate with 'people' like yourselves, try one of the sites catering to the west coast. The fact that he has zero votes is not an indicator that he is right; just that most people here have common sense. Not wanting to provide EVERYTHING to the fertile & lazy is not 'evil'.

You people are terrifyingly stupid. I don't know if worst part is your idiotic, parroted comments or the fact that JeffersonTao, the only person on this site able to provide intelligent debate, has 0 votes.

The "occupy" movement is needing you back "tao".... (I didn't know they HAD wi-fi in hippie camps)

lmao at tao. You really missed your calling as propaganda minister. Obama said the president has no control over gas prices, but takes credit when they go down. He claims this economy is on bush. He touts the jobs created in 2009. 2009 was BUSH budget and policies. 2010 on we have nose dived. 2010 on is all obama. So which is it? Blame bush or thank him? And if this is all on bush, then obama is a failed president. He should give a final speech and just say I don't know what i'm doing. And missy is spot on about his "investing" in green energy. The country would be better off if obama would go find himself a gay man and put ape-ella back in her cage. In trying to understand you, I realized that you are merely trying to prove your loyalty to our socialist regime so that you won't face the death panels of the un-affordable healthcare scam.

Missy, dear, the irony in your post speaks for itself, ending in the word "Dumbocrat." It would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic. Using phrases like "other people's money" is code for "I don't want to pay my taxes" in far right speak. You quote the stale Fox News garbage well. Fortunately, your ideology has already run its course in the form of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, A crisis we are still digging out from under, in spite of all the intention Republican obstruction.Republicans have alienated most every ethic and social group in this country, besides mainly white Southern men and the diseased religious extremists who wish to impose their backwards views on everybody else. November is going to show Republicans which side their bread is buttered on, pardon the cliché. I laugh at their decline!

You'd have to be an idiot to believe all the money given to "green" companies were ever expected to produce anything. If a product has a sufficient demand, it won't need other peoples money. It was all a big slush fund. Gobs of that wasted money found its way back to Obama and the Dumbacrats. Big surprise.

BTW, my name is not Jeffrey, it's Jorma.

Finally, some real dialogue from you! I do not "hate the lord" as you say, assuming one ever existed. As an Atheist, I despise the hypocrisy that is religion. For example: people who claim to follow the alleged teachings of said "lord", assuming you mean Jesus of Nazareth, are the same people who constantly condemn those who rely on our nations social safety net for survival. I can go on and on with examples of Christian hypocrisy, but I'm not going to waste my time. It is a non-issue in relation to anything relevant in this year of 2012. Self delusion and hypocrisy benefits no one.

I comment on a lot of things, Jeffrey......I especially try to enlighten mis-guided souls such as yourself......why do you hate the Lord?

Fraiserrboi, your fixation on me is a bit strange. Obviously some of the things I say are foreign concepts to you. Do they not have intelligent people in Frayser? Or maybe some gay men? You need to find one because I am not the least bit interested in you that way. If you have some reasoned rebuttal to something I've said, then by all means say it. But these constant platitudes aimed in my direction add nothing to the discussion.